dan alluded to it earlier. i think that's what's going on here, but it's just -- it's uncomfortable to watch this play out on national tv. >> he's also indicating that he doesn't want to talk about the, you know, whether or not he said what he said -- you say he said in the hospital room because it was part of a private conversation and you asked for him not to say anything. is that true? i mean, would you mind if he talked about it? >> let him -- fine. he can talk about everything now. i'll talk about the intimate details of the conversation. he can talk about that. because i brought it up to him. we talked about that. and he dropped the ball. i didn't want to get into the -- to the -- it was a very emotional phone call. this is a guy who used to be my friend who decimated me. he could have come clean. he owed it to me. he owes it to the sport that he destroyed. and don't -- when he says he doesn't like the uci, that's a bunch of crap. he has the uci in his back pocket. lance wasn't a leader? that's a bunch of